If it’s true, we all have a polarity on this earth plane with us, and we probably couldn’t be in this world of duality without the other, our quantum entanglement, I would not be surprised if this man was actually Courtney Loves Twin Flame. I believe he holds the key to this answer. So I’m going digging. He’s been there the entire time, in plain sight, but under the radar. I’m looking at you, Patrick.
If anyone would like to help with these mirrors, just post in the comments. I think I need assistance with a Courtney Love super-fan for this. Thanks so much!
Songwriter & producer, famous for being part of the core duo behind Nirvana [UK].
Born on 13 July 1943, Lismore, County Waterford, Ireland
The band was formed in 1967, the year both Billy and Kurt were born.
Where to start, my go to, is usually the Wikipedia:
He was the vocalist and a founder member of a locally-popular R&B band Second Thoughts whose lineups included future record producer Chris Thomas, Thunderclap Newman founder/drummer Speedy Keen and two future members of prog-rock band Jade Warrior (Jon Field and Tony Duhig). Second Thoughts split up in late 1965 and after a year living in Sweden, Campbell-Lyons returned to London in late 1966.
In early 1967 he formed Nirvana with Greek musician Alex Spyropoulos. The duo (augmented in the studio and live by a floating line-up of session musicians) created a series of critically acclaimed baroque, orchestrated albums before disbanding in the early 1970s.
Campbell-Lyons then pursued a career in the music business as an A&R executive and producer – while continuing to occasionally record solo albums including Me & My Friend, The Electric Plough and The Hero I Might Have Been.
In early July 2008, Campbell-Lyons started to write a book, Psychedelic Days, about his life and times in 1960’s London and beyond.
There’s some conflict with the band wiki.
Greek composer Alex Spyropoulos (born George Alex Spyropoulos, 1941, Athens, Greece) and Ray Singer (born 4 July 1946)
Other sources say 1967. I wonder if 1964 is when he started getting into music?
I’m intrigued by the Psychedelic days in the 1960’s. Courtney father was giving Courtney LSD as a child. This is a great linear timeline.
Their first album was released October 1967, a concept album.
Courtney seems drawn to London. I know they most likely crossed paths because they took Nirvana to court. COURTney.
In 1985, the band reformed. The members of the band took the popular American rock band with the same name to court over the usage of the name, eventually reaching a settlement.
I’m loving his last name. Lyons. Lying.
His first name is William’s middle name. Also, his first two initials, PC are Billys middle and last initials. So we have PCL and WPC. Courtney and I share middle and last initials MH.
Can’t find a birth time. But he’s sun cancer, like Courtney. Birthdays 4 days apart. Numerology 10/1. They are both almost 22 years apart minus 4 days.
Another mention: July 13. In English it’s written, 7/13. Can you see Billy Corgan’s birthdate reversed? 3/17.
Not much other information I can find about him right now. There’s no birth time. The most for a chart is this:
Another book I may have to get…..
What was your first contact with music?
Patrick Campbell-Lyons: I describe it in sweet flowing detail in the first chapter of the book ‘Psychedelic Days: 1960-1969’. I was inside my mother’s womb getting ready to pop out very soon. My parents were dancing (they loved it and did it all the time) and I could hear the songs they were dancing to, mostly songs from the USA pop charts of the time.
Were you in any other bands before forming Nirvana?
The first band I had for 2 months only I might say was called the Teenbeats (took a lot of time to think of that name indeed!). Then I had a really hot R&B band called the Second Thoughts. Speedy Keen who was later in Thunderclap Newman was the drummer, and he was one of my best mates at the time, Chris Thomas (later a top record producer) was the bass player.
We were all living in West Ealing London at the time. It was a jumpin and jivin place for sex, making music, and doing drugs, all told in great and surreal detail in two chapters of my latest book.
Hat and Tie was never a band. It was just myself and Chris Thomas as a recording songwriting duo. It was well worth it though as the Everly Brothers not much later recorded one of the songs called ‘I’m Finding it Rough’. We were lucky fuckers, how many songwriters can say the first song they ever wrote was recorded by one of the biggest acts in the world.
Can you elaborate the formation of Nirvana?
It started in a cafe in Denmark street in Soho London on the day I met Alex Spyropoulos from Athens (but just moved from Paris to swap a career in law for one in film/music). Our first session was in Regent Sound in the same street a week later when we demo’d a version of the song ‘Busy Man’. We had 3 hours in there which we got for no payment other than to buy the engineer a few drinks in the “ship” pub the next time we were there together, the Rolling Stones came in later in the afternoon at about 4.00pm. Bill The Engineer said “fuck off guys, the Stones are outside and they want to get their gear in”. So that’s what we did.
‘The Story of Simon Simopath’ is one of the first conceptual albums. It’s a true masterpiece.
Well thank you for the accolades, and I don’t mind saying we deserve them, because we did work very hard at trying to make (as you say) a masterpiece. We spent a lot of time over the craft of the songwriting, the artwork and arrangements, and later with the help of the wonderful Syd Dale we got it ready for recording, where we had the best in production to work with us. None of it would have been possible if the unique presence, belief in us, and money also, of our label boss and founder Chris Blackwell (Island Records) was not there to manage and guide the project, that is why I devote a complete chapter in the book ‘Psychedelic Days’ to him and his story in music. ‘The Story of Simon Simopath’ is the first concept album, and we were the first band to use phasing, and we were the first band with the name Nirvana… and we are the only band to have performed live with Salvador Dali… that chapter in the is one of the reader’s/and reviewer’s favourite.
Who created the art for the album cover?
David Browning of CCS advertising in London. It’s based on our ideas.
What about ‘All Of Us’?
I remember that time as being the most creative of my life, everything was buzzing, we were on a constant high, we were traveling to Germany/France, Holland and Scandinavia as our recordings were beginning to sell in those territories. We were at the top of our game and ideas were coming forth like champagne from a soda fountain.
The artwork for ‘All Of Us’ is very creative.
More than interesting some might say… maybe even disturbing to some, but we went with it after we found the picture in an old bookshop in Delmenhorst (near Hamburg) in Germany. It is a montage film still from a movie (‘Propaganda’) made by Lenni Reifensthal for the Third Reich. What more can I say? As a contrast to the ‘Simon Simopath’ cover (first LP release) it was a wonderful flash image, that’s what we liked about our ideas, they always worked as “flash” pop……pow!
Did you do any touring at the time?
If I give you everything in this interview no one will buy the book… So I will just say, two of my favourite chapters as the author and worth the price of the book alone are “fucking around in Belgium” and “into Morocco”…
‘Dedicated to Markos III’ was released in 1970. Arrangements became even more sophisticated.
Yes I agree with your observations, that’s what we thought too and still feel the same today… but unfortunately Chris and Island felt we had become to “orchestral and lush” … his words! So the relationship with Island was over, and we moved on to pastures anew. C’est la vie.
Well, we at least know he has a daughter……
In 1973 you recorded a solo album ‘Me and My Friend’.
It is a work that is inspired by where I was at time of my life, which was the island of Majorca in Spain, the painter Liz Montgomery, and my beautiful daughter.
Nirvana were essentially the duo of Irishman Patrick Campbell-Lyons and Greek Alex Spyropoulos – who, following a chance meeting in London during the summer of 1966, took a long, strange trip together. ‘Songlife’ represents the first time the band’s recorded output has ever been collated together on one release and is an engrossing body of work to explore. These albums sit comfortably with some of the other great works of the time (the Zombies, The Kinks and the Pretty Things included). Four of the original albums have been remastered from their original ¼ inch tapes and the box itself comes with a 52-page booklet featuring liner notes from renowned author Peter Doggett, interviews with Patrick and Alex from Nirvana, full discography, rare newspaper clippings, previously unseen photos, posters and sleeves, and an exclusive Gered Mankowitz print signed individually by the band. Of key interest to fans will be the ‘Secrets’ album which was only recently unearthed in its entirety, its origins began as a musical score that Nirvana had planned on bringing to London’s Theatres and stages in the early Seventies.
Nirvana’s story remains a wonderful tale of artistic ambition and entwined within it lies a roll call of supporting cast heroes that includes The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Traffic, Chris Blackwell, Salvador Dali, Francoise Hardy, Tony Visconti, and many more.
It’s really nice to have. What a long strange trip must have been. More than 50 years ago you met in London, during the summer of 1966.
Patrick Campbell-Lyons: I remember walking into a crazy house of musicians, songwriters, film students, groupies from Carnaby Street Hustlers of Soho. Some of the cast of the musical ‘Hair’… It was very bohemian. I met Jimi Hendrix there, Noel Redding introduced me, Noel was a friend. It was a magical place.
Alex Spyropoulos: We were signed to the same publisher, Kassner Music, Denmark Street Tin Pan Alley. I was sitting in the famous “Gioconda” cafe with my co-writer Sally Topham. Patrick came in with his co-writer Chris Thomas. We were introduced, we connected. Nirvana was born at that moment.
What influenced you to become a musician?
Patrick: My parents dancing, Gilbert and Sullivan, school opera society, the Everly Brothers, Elvis Presley, the Clipper Carton Show Band, Chuck Berry, Jimmy Reed, Jim Marshall music shop West Ealing London, The Second Thoughts and…Girls!
Alex: I played classic piano from an early age moving on to Jazz and eventually got enchanted by the British Rock scene of the 60s.
Were you inspired by psychoactive substances like LSD at the time?
Patrick: I was inspired by everything, anything and everyone, and thank god I lived to tell the story….back then life was a happening!
Alex: My endorphins were enough!!!
How are you currently coping with the world pandemic and what are your predictions for the music industry?
Patrick: Songwriters the same as all serious creative people are loners so this is normal for me. It’s the way I live, I just have to keep myself safe and healthy god willing, as for the music industry, music will always be there forever, industry I do not understand so the publisher and the record company are there to work on that for us.
Alex: About time we took care of our precious planet and the exploitation of of our garden. As for the future of the music industry…who knows….
What currently occupies your life?
Patrick: Walking, sleeping, eating, reading, writing songs, currently released song: ‘Don’t Make America Cry’ for project Planet Of Love. Always trying to move forward and make things happen.
Alex: Creating forever!
- “Tiny Goddess” (July 1967)
- “Pentecost Hotel” (October 1967)
- “Rainbow Chaser” (March 1968) – UK Singles Chart No. 34
- “Girl in the Park” (July 1968)
- “All of Us” (November 1968)
- “Wings of Love” (January 1969)
- “Oh! What a Performance” (May 1969)
- “The Picture of Dorian Gray” (September 1981)
What I find interesting is his music partner named Alex Spyropoulos. Spy. Some people believe Courtney and/or her father has ties in the CIA. This is great. I love this!
Interesting. I was unaware of any siblings of Courtney. She has a brother Josh. Ooooooooo. I was trying to see if she had any family named Alex.
- Father – Hank Harrison (Publisher)
- Mother – Linda Carroll (Author)
- Siblings – Joshua Barraud (Brother) (Film Art Director), Benjamin Barraud (Brother) (Film Art Director), Daniel Menely (Brother), Jaimee Rodriguez (Sister), Nicole Rodriguez (Sister), Tobias (Half-Brother), Daniel (Half-Brother)
- Others – Paula Fox (Maternal Grandmother) (Author), Paul Hervey Fox (Maternal Great Grandfather) (Writer), Elsie Fox (Maternal Great Grandmother) (Screenwriter), Douglas Fairbanks (Great Uncle), Phil Lesh (Godfather)
I’ve read that Josh and Ben are actual step brothers to her, not blood related. And that her parents divorced when she was 5 years old and was raised mostly by her mother….. now where is this LSD at?
Excuse me. I need a laugh….
Love took classes in film and acting from San Francisco Art Institute in California.
^^^^^^ I was unaware of that. I wondered when that happened. Recent? Recent would be too obvious. It doesn’t say that she graduated but took some classes. I don’t know if Chloe graduated either.
WOW! Courtney has some small feet! She’s 5 10 with a size 5 shoe! Damn! I’m 6 1/2! I wear size 7 stripper shoes!
I can’t believe her foot is that much smaller than mine. This must be a typo. I simply can’t believe that image I have of her foot is that small.
Interesting about her mother….. can we say ironic?
I wonder if she ever spoken at Pebble? Well, my mother was 18 when she had my brother. She worked at a church located on Carroll Ave for 38 years. My parents have a long time friend that I grew up calling her Aunt Linda.
Well, I have no interest in getting any coaching from Courtney “Love” mother any time soon nor in the foreseeable future. I might pick up her one book and see what she has to say about Courtney. Courtney being a first born. One person reviews said that he can see where Courtney gets it from. It was a two star review. There were five star but one many never know if they were created to give it positive reviews.
Looks like I found something to work with. She’s the only child from her parents but have 2 half sisters. A brother that died as a baby.
Must be an interesting read from her mothers book.
From MySpace article
It must have been a rude surprise for Kurt Cobain and company to be hit with a lawsuit over the name of their band once they became internationally successful.In the finish, however, the result was relatively amicable, with the original Nirvana getting together long enough to record a version of Cobain’s “Lithium” for a 1996 collection of previously unreleased material.
Nirvana appeared in 1967, starting as a six-piece led by Patrick Campbell-Lyons from Ireland, and Alex Spyropoulos from Greece. They were quickly signed to the fledgling Island label, which had formed out of Chris Blackwell’s street-level R&B and rocksteady label operations, when Blackwell recognized a need to hook into the exploding psychedelic genre of the time. The first LP to emerge was the science-fiction concept album, The Story of Simon Simopath, which yielded their second single, “Pentecost Hotel” (their first and third singles appeared on the follow-up, All of Us.)
The band’s early performances yielded something of an audience, but this did not translate into explosive sales in England or America, though the band achieved some success in Europe. Winnowing down to the core duo of Campbell-Lyons and Spyropoulos, Nirvana continued to release singles from All of Us, with the title track going on to be selected as the theme song for The Touchables, while “Rainbow Chaser,” an almost-hit, came to be considered a classic psychedelic outing.
Life at Island Records did not go so well, unfortunately, with Chris Blackwell refusing to release their third album, Black Flower, so the duo picked up and moved on to Pye Records, home of the Kinks. Black Flower was bought back from Island and worked over, finally being released as Dedicated to Markos III. The result was disastrous. The constantly beleaguered Pye (which would eventually founder) managed to shift only a few hundred units, while the U.S. label to which the album was licensed promptly went under with no more than a few promotional copies having been sent out. Dedicated to Markos III eventually received another release in 1987, restored to the original title of Black Flower, with the 1993 Edsel CD release including a re-recorded version of “Pentecost Hotel” and a newly recorded track titled “Shine.”
With the release of Dedicated to Markos III, Spyropoulos quit to pursue other musical work. Nirvana had become very much Campbell-Lyons’ venue by this point, and Spyropoulos had had enough of feeling constrained. Campbell-Lyons then signed to Philips’ new progressive label, Vertigo, recording and releasing Local Anaesthetic, a heavily jazz-influenced album featuring only two cuts: “Modus Operandi,” and the somewhat less epic “Home.” The album was quick to disappear from view, as was Songs of Love and Praise, which featured several re-recorded cuts, including both “Rainbow Chaser” and “Pentecost Hotel.”
Campbell-Lyons came out from behind the Nirvana name for an attempt at a solo album, Me & My Friend, which came and went swiftly in 1973. In 1980, he reunited with Spyropoulos to write a musical, Blood, which has yet to surface. The duo have sporadically performed and recorded as Nirvana, which led to Bam Caruso’s 1987 reissue of Black Flower, as well as renewed interest in the group. Most of the original albums have been reissued by either Edsel or Repertoire (Songs of Love and Praise is the sole exception), a collection of demos and outtakes, entitled Secret Theatre, has been released, and a new album, Orange and Blue, featuring material previously unrecorded by the band, was issued in 1996.
From all indications, it would appear that Nirvana, having come together again in the ’90s, intends to be around for some time longer. ~ Steven McDonald
The Story Of Simon Simopath
Released 1967; Island ILPS 9059
1 Wings Of Love (Spyropoulos/Campell-Lyons)
2 Lonely Boy (Spyropoulos/Campell-Lyons)
3 We Can Help You (Spyropoulos/Campell-Lyons)
4 Satellite Jockey (Spyropoulos/Campell-Lyons)
5 In The Courtyard Of The Stars
6 You’re Just The One (Spyropoulos/Campell-Lyons)
7 Pentecost Hotel (Spyropoulos/Campell-Lyons)
8 I Never Found A Love Like This (Spyropoulos/Campell-Lyons)
9 Take This Hand (Spyropoulos/Campell-Lyons)
10 1999 (Spyropoulos/Campell-Lyons)
Produced by Chris Blackwell
Engineer: Brian Humphries
Arranger/Conducter: Syd Dale
All Of Us
Released 1967. Island ILPS 9087
1 Rainbow Chaser
2 Tiny Goddess
3 The Touchables (All Of Us)
4 Melanie Blue
6 The Show Must Go On
7 Girl In The Park
8 Miami Masquerade
9 Frankie The Great
10 You Can Try It
11 Everybody Loves The Clown
12 St. John’s Wood Affair
Produced and arranged by Brian Humphries
All songs written by Spyropoulos/Campbell-Lyons
Buried Treasure – Nirvana ‘Dedicated to Markos III’
If there is a grander, more beautiful psychedelic LP than Nirvana’s Dedicated To Markos III, then I wanna know about it. The Irish/Greek pairing of Campbell-Lyons and Spyropoulos made the sweetest melancholia in Old Blighty, filled with full-on orchestrations that would make Morricone and Alexrod weep and melodies so fine that it actually makes you want every other band to just pack up and go home.
Nirvana (of course I don’t mean that Nirvana you clot) had reached incredible musical heights with Tiny Goddess, Rainbow Chaser, The Girl In The Park and Lonely Boy, but nothing could prepare those who heard the majesty of the Markos III LP. If any album fits the bill of ‘why on Earth wasn’t this a huge hit?‘ this is the one… although… in saying that, once heard, you don’t want to share it with any old dickhead.
From the off, Markos III is a phenomenal long player. The World Is Cold Without you is everything you could ever want from a song. No. Scratch that. ‘A song’ it ain’t. It’s a mini symphony. It’s overdriven drums rattle along loosely under overblown sike-strings whilst the chorus makes every single hair on your head, back and arms stand on end. In the dying throes of the spectacular finale, you breathlessly tell yourself that there is no way this album can keep it up. It’s too good. It’s a track that makes you cuss and cry straight back to the deck or CD tray for a replay.
As each track rolls by with great cinematic sweeps and broad paint strokes, it’s clear that this was a band on top of there game and making some of the most incredible music ever cut to wax. It may sound like I’m overdoing, but if you’ve heard the album, you’ll know… you’ll just know. It seems unfair that Pet Sounds should get all the plaudits when it comes to far reaching inventive emotive pop. Nirvana at their best outstrip the two dimensional sounds of Wilson. He copied Spector, Nirvana were without peer. This is an LP that deals with real loneliness and rejection in an adult way that Wilson was simply far too fucked on acid to be able to cope with. You need to be a real man (or woman obviously) to be able to take this album. It’s so magnificent that it actually drains you. When I Talk To My Room thunders in, you recall the toytown In My Room by The Beach Boys. Whilst Wilson and Co. wistfully look out of rainy windows, Nirvana are outside in the rain screaming at the sky with their life in tatters.
Nirvana were clearly a band with huge balls. Their Christopher Lucifer, on the surface, sounds for all the world like a Biblical diatribe about the perils of the devil. Scratch the skin and underneath is a vicious attack on Chris Blackwell, spod at Island records (Nirvana resided in the classic ‘Island Pink’ roster) who shafted the band with a lack of funds and time. He wanted to know where the singles were… Nirvana had just created the most ambitious and elaborate psychedelic LP ever cut. Where’s the problem?
Aside from the dramatic crashing dramas that unfold throughout this LP, the band were just as adept at creating gentle and sublime pop. Aline Cherie is a lilting song full of mourning and yearning. It’s heart-breaking. It could almost be the soundtrack to a long lost forgotten film from the forties. It manages to stop short of saccharine by throwing in some truly haunting melodies. Love Suite is another sweet baroque pop masterpiece. At first glance, it’s a simple girl-boy love song. Again, looking closer, you’ll find sorrow, regret, missed chances, hope. It manages to contain more ideas in its three or so minutes than your average film can muster in a couple of hours. It’s as close to perfect as music gets.
Black Flower is the dark twisted centre piece of the LP. Far from the catchiest and most accessible tune on Markos III, Black Flower is an exercise in pure evil. Dark dramatic strings ferociously clatter through deceptively sweet verses. The chorus is a vast wall of sound that sees “Look at the people down below!” rasping and cutting through horns, keys and orchestra before breaking into fuzzed guitars. It’s incredible stuff. This is one of those LPs that continually fails to get the plaudits it so richly deserves. With each listen, more of this album’s buried treasure is revealed. You honestly cannot live without it. It is the highest watermark set by a pop album to date.
I have ordered his book. Just FYI
Black Flower. Interesting name. Courtney is such a drug addict. Perhaps this is reference to that and also how her father was giving her LSD. His flower was being forced to take drugs.
- Kurt Cobain – lead vocals, lead guitar (1987–1994; his death)
- Krist Novoselic – bass (1987–1994)
- Dave Grohl – drums, backing vocals (1990–1994)
- Pat Smear – rhythm guitar, backing vocals (1993–1994)
- John Duncan – rhythm guitar (1992–1993)
- Lori Goldston – cello (1993–1994)
- Melora Creager – cello (1994)
- Aaron Burckhard – drums (1987–1988, 1988)
- Dale Crover – drums (1988, 1990)
- Dave Foster – drums (1988)
- Chad Channing – drums (1988–1990)
- Dan Peters – drums (1990)
- Jason Everman – rhythm guitar (1989)
- Mark Pickerel – drums (1989)
- Kirk Canning – cello (1991)
- Kera Schaley – cello (1993)
Interesting US Nirvana also had Cellos.
I purchased the book new because I didn’t find used. Guess where it’s shipping from? New Jersey, of all places! Lol Remember, as with Josh, there’s mirrors the bridges all of us. This one may be more difficult to find for me, as my preoccupation was all about Billy Corgan and not the women he was banging. They were just overlooked in most part. I was about the music, it was better to stay focused on the music, not what his body was doing. Loving from afar and in my heart.
I can’t wait to get his book. I want more information about his family and if he had more than one child, a daughter. This would mirror Courtney, of course. But Bill has 4 and his TF has three. So, I don’t think it’s always the case. Or me and Billy Corgan’s mirrors are just so beyond anything and anyone else’s. I can’t say. People on drugs, well, ours is on every drug known to mankind.
I think I’m going to need Courtney dad book as well. I need Hanks book.
We can’t entirely rely on Wikipedia to be fully correct as I have shown above that there’s a conflict with when the band was form and it has 1965 but other sources say 1967, and I’m going with 1967. Further down it mentions that they filed a lawsuit in 1992 and I’m goin with this when it happened. In 1992, Courtney was 27/28, right in her first Saturn return. Just saying.
I have he book and I already found some synchronicities.
I believe I read enough here. I might try to find older images of them and see if I can make a half half or perhaps find some physical characteristics that’s another test there. The song titled Rainbow Chaser sounds appropriate for a child who could be forced to take a psychedelic drug. She’s chasing rainbows. I don’t know about the rest of the song lyric, I have to look at it but I see the name itself as symbolic. At what age did he start giving her LSD? I just heard she was very young. Was she a toddler? Sounds like a parent who wanted nothing to do with their child. And I feel bad for her, but she became an adult and it’s her decision to get better or not.
I don’t know if I’ll put in the amount of energy like with Josh. Again, if any Superfans would like to contribute, just leave a comment below.
I did. I ordered the Kurt Cobain journal book just for this, just because someone mentioned it somewhere so I had to see for myself.
I skimmed the entire book. That’s all I found. Patrick seemed more positive when talking about Kurt and Co but Kurt was very negative. I’m seeing this as a sign that he “knows”. He might not understand it but on a subconscious level he knows and this is his Ego response. I’m sure not everything was scanned and things have been left out. If he was a journal writer, then there must be something somewhere about the lawsuit of the name.